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A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing

How Phillip Johnson is trying to deceive the Evangelical Movement

 
Following are quotes from "A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing" by Phillip R. Johnson and a rebuttal written by Cory J. Schmidtz.

This is not the Phillip Johnson of "Darwin on Trial."

 

It is not my aim in this article to thoroughly discuss or defend the views of Charles Finney. My present purpose is to demonstrate how Phillip Johnson has made a straw man by filling his article with misrepresentations. I will demonstrate that what he has written only serves to prove that he is unwilling to honestly deal with the issue involved, the most offensive example involves the atonement.  

As we proceed please keep in mind one quote referring to Finney by Johnson:
 

"Though he excelled at cloaking his opinions in ambiguous language and biblical-sounding expressions, his views were almost pure Pelagianism. The arguments he employed to sustain those views were nearly always rationalistic and philosophical, not biblical." (Wolf 10)

I have two points to demonstrate the first of which deals with Finney's so called "ambiguous language."  

1.) In the following, I will show from the context of Johnson's quotes that Finney is not ambiguous.

2.) It is my aim to show that Phillip Johnson is not rational, and uses philosophy which is not biblical.

 

Part One

The Bias Argument Scripture Alone The Atonement
Righteousness and Imputation Justification by Faith The Fruit

Part Two-

The Grounds of our Justification The Conditions of of our Justification The Sinful Nature
Eternal Security The Fruit  

Playing With Fraud? 

Some of Johnson’s arguments are more akin to political mud slinging than theological discussion. He started his article by claiming that Finney had deceived the presbytery concerning his knowledge of the West Minister Confession, and had therefore obtained his licenses under false pretenses. However, considering that George W. Gale (who later founded Knox College) was on the board, and had individually supervised Finney's education, it is highly unlikely that he would have been able to deceive them in such a way. If Finney should have known the confession, as Johnson seems to think, it would have been Gale's responsibility - rather than Finney’s - to make it a part of the curriculum. It is indeed very strange that a Presbyterian would not make it a significant part of the curriculum; but we don't have all the information.  Johnson implied that without this knowledge, Finney was unprepared for the ministry. Perhaps as a minister of Calvinism, that would be true; but as a minister of Christ, it is unnecessary.  Two other points should be noted: firstly, in the midst of  Finney’s successes and controversies, he was subject to intense scrutiny. Indeed, by the year 1827 there was so much debate over him that a convention was called in New Lebanon, which was attended by many of the most well known ministers of the day. After the New Lebanon convention, which cleared Finney’s name of serious accusations, members of  the 1828  General Assembly introduced a truce which called for an end to the debate over Finney’s measures.  This truce was signed by Lyman Beecher as well as Finney. The point I want to make here is that these things are discussed in many of the books about Finney, and as far as I know the issue of the West Minister Confession and his license to preach never came up, nor have I seen any historical sources reference it as an issue.   It appears from Johnson's article that he has dreamed up this charge by reading into statements Finney made in his autobiography - which leaves Johnson's accusation  speculative at best. This is made worse by the following statement.

“Finney's credibility is further marred by the fact that when he later read the Westminster Standards and realized he disagreed on almost every crucial point, he did not resign the commission he had received under false pretenses. Instead, he accepted the platform he had duped those men into giving him—then used it for the rest of his life to attack their doctrinal convictions.” (1)

Had Johnson  thought this through, he would have realized that those men could have taken his license at any time. At the end of the New Lebanon Convention, the only serious issue they were left with concerned women and ministry. Finney allowed women to pray and give testimonies in his protracted meetings, while the Presbyterian commission preferred not to allow woman that liberty  (I am not sure if Johnson supports this part of his Presbyterian heritage). Finally, if Johnson would have done more thorough research, he may have realized that Finney did resign his commission. He left the Presbyterian Church in 1833 to became a Congregationalist. Now if someone had made this type of statement of Luther, they would never get away with it because it is common knowledge that he left - or rather was forced out of - the Catholic Church.  Concerning Finney, however, Johnson  plays on people's ignorance. We could take this conversation in many other speculative directions, but  it is more profitable to focus on doctrinal issues. 

The Bias Argument

"In other words, as a new 'convert,' Finney simply devised a theology that fit his already-established prejudices." (3)

In the following section we will examine how Johnson tries to prove that Finney rejected Presbyterianism because of a pre-conversion bias. We will also examine the validity of the bias argument in general, and as related to pre-conversion.

Finney's disagreements with his denomination's doctrinal standards clearly were not opinions he formed after his examination by the council. By his own admission, he had consciously rejected the basic theological framework of the Presbyterian confession long before he stood before those men. He writes of doctrinal debates he had provoked with his pastor, George W. Gale: "I could not receive his views on the subject of atonement, regeneration, faith, repentance, the slavery of the Will, or any of their kindred doctrines" [Memoirs, 46].

Even prior to his conversion, Finney had raised many of the very same issues and objected strongly to Gale's teaching on such points. He wrote,

I now think that I sometimes criticized his sermons unmercifully. I raised such objections against his positions as forced themselves upon my attention. . . .  What did he mean by repentance? Was it a mere feeling of sorrow for sin? Was it altogether a passive state of mind? or did it involve a voluntary element? If it was a change of mind, in what respect was it a change of mind? What did he mean by the term regeneration? What did such language mean when spoken of as a spiritual change? What did he mean by faith? Was it merely an intellectual state? Was it merely a conviction, or persuasion, that the things stated in the Gospel were true? [Memoirs, 10-12.]

Finney's "conversion" does not seem to have altered his skepticism about his denomination's stance on any of these crucial evangelical doctrines." (Wolf, 2)

"In other words, Finney's earliest opinions on "the subject[s] of atonement, regeneration, faith, repentance, the slavery of the will, [and] kindred doctrines" became baggage he dragged along into his own peculiar systematic theology. Having objected to Pastor Gale's doctrinal stance on these issues since before his conversion . . . " (Wolf, 3)

The accusation that the NT writers were so biased as to render the NT useless as a source of evidence about Jesus is a common theme in popular skeptical literature . . .

It should be pointed out that 'bias' actually has NO CORRELATION to 'truth or falsity'. One's pre-disposition to believe X has no logical bearing on the truth-status of X. (In history, this is known as the 'genetic fallacy'; in philosophy it is called the 'argumentum ad hominum'.)

For example, if there are two propositions X and ~X, one of which is true (and the other false); and if there are two proponents A and B, with A having a 'bias' toward X and B having a 'bias' toward ~X, then ONE OF THEM IS STILL CORRECT--in spite of 'bias'.

Glenn M. Miller

This section from Johnson's article is quite deceptive. Johnson labelled it "Baggage From The Years Of Unbelief," but starts with a quote relating to Finney's training for the ministry, and associated it with his pre-conversion life. This does not correlate to pre-conversion views. (See Biography Online Ch 4). The main fallacy involved in this section is  that the conclusion does not follow from the evidence (ie. it is non sequitor).

We should notice that the pre-conversion reference does give evidence that Finney questioned what the pastor meant; but these references do not imply that he rejected them in preference to pre-existent views. Examples given on pages 10-12 pertained to questions such as whether or not faith was an intellectual conviction or  something more. While Johnson concluded that Finney rejected the doctrines here alluded to, the truth is that Finney was accusing the pastor of being vague as to what he meant. Even the post-conversion quote from page 46 states that Finney rejected Gale's views of those doctrines, rather than rejecting the doctrines themselves.

Declaring that Finney rejected his pastor's view of the atonement, repentance, etc. before his examination by the presbytery, proves nothing. For this to be considered a valid criticism, Johnson would have to prove that Gale's views of these doctrines were correct. If Johnson could prove that Jesus did not die for everyone (Gale's view of the atonement), or that God does not want everyone to be saved (Gale's view of the slavery of the will/repentance) he would have a case. However, to many of us, these views seem so far fetched that we find it hard to believe that anyone holds them.

Johnson has worked very hard in his attempt to show that Finney rejected Calvinism because of a pre-conversion bias. What  would Johnson expect?  That Finney would have accepted Gale's doctrines before his conversion? I rejected much of Catholicism before my conversion; does that mean it was actually true because I realized it before my conversion, and therefore must have been wrong? My subsequent evaluations confirmed my rejection - am I now guilty of dragging a bias into my theology? No doubt I am, but that in no way proves Catholicism to be true. Everyone has biases.

"As soon as it was night, the brothers sent Paul and Silas away to Berea. On arriving there, they went to the Jewish synagogue. Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true."
Acts 17:10-11

"Another test, which we also have, is to try the professed revelation whether it accord with Scripture, as the noble Bereans did (Isa 8:20 Acts 17:11 Gal 1:8-9). This negatives Rome's assumption of infallibly laying down the law: the laity have the right of private judgment, and are bound to exercise it in testing every human teaching by Scripture. Locke, `Those who are for laying aside reason in matters of revelation resemble one who should put out his eyes to use a telescope.'"

(From Jamieson, Fausset, and Brown Commentary, 1 Thess 5:21-22 Electronic Database. Copyright (c) 1997 by Biblesoft)

While Finney did study before his conversion, so did the Bereans (Acts 17:11). As to the accusation of skepticism, what is wrong with that? No New Testament writer ever said "swallow whatever a pastor says without thinking." Paul never criticized people for having questions, or for a pre-conversion study of Scriptures; rather, he praised them. Thankfully, Finney's studies lead him to Christ, despite having a pastor who did not make sense.

"But the one who received the seed that fell on good soil is the man who hears the word and understands it. He produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown." Matt 13:23

The bias argument is very poor, especially when coming from someone who claims to be a Believer.  Sigmund Freud taught that Theism was socialized wishful thinking; the relativist tries to prove that everyone has a bias, and concludes that nothing is really true. I will not spend time here trying to prove that it is possible to be objective despite our biases, but I will contend that if this is not the case, for all practical purposes relativism is true. Obviously, when someone rejects truth, it is a result of bias; but we do not need to go searching for bias arguments because they prove nothing. The validity of any particular truth claim needs to be evaluated. We will each stand before God who will judge the secrets of our hearts.

In Finney's case, he had come to realize that he needed to be justified by faith in Christ, but was not about to believe anything unless it could be proved. This showed wisdom. We should all test everything and hold fast to that which is true. 

Sola Scriptura-Scripture Alone

"In effect, Finney also abandoned sola scriptura (the authority and sufficiency of Scripture), as shown by his constant appeal to rationalism in support of his new theology. The movement he led therefore represents the wholesale abandonment of historic Protestant principles." (4)

Jesus and the Apostles Appealed to Reason

In the following passage Jesus asserts that there was sufficient evidence in support of his claims (the miracles). Valid evidence implies an obligation to accept the implied truth, and rejection is nothing less then sin.

"If I had not done among them what no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin. But now they have seen these miracles, and yet they have hated both me and my Father. But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: `They hated me without reason.'" John 15:24-25

The book of Acts plainly labels the preaching of the Apostle Paul as reasoned discourses. "Every Sabbath he reasoned in the synagogue, trying to persuade Jews and Greeks." Acts 18:4. Paul could meet the Greeks on their own field and use their own logic to demonstrate the truth that is in Christ. In Acts 17:16ff Paul demonstrates the use of deductive reasoning, if-then statements and uses syllogisms.

In verse 28-29 Paul makes his appeal rest on an a premise that would already be accepted by his hearers. He states that if we are God's offspring then we should not think of God as an idol made by man. There are two elaborate syllogisms in his message both of which contain logical arguments inside the premises. A simpler one with an implied premise is in verse 29-30:

"Therefore, since we are God's offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone an image made by man's design and skill. In the past, God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent."

Premise: God is not an idol.
Implied premise: You are worshiping idols.
Conclusion You need to repent.

In this single message, there is much that can be discussed in terms of philosophy, biblical, and rational appeals.

"We know also that the son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true-even in his son Jesus Christ"
1 John 5:20

It is mildly amusing to know that the author if spurgeon.org disagrees with Spurgeon on this point. The very reason I believe the Bible is the authority by which we should judge doctrine is because it is clearly reasonable and rational to do so. I do not merely believe it because it claims to be authoritive; so does the Book of Mormon. Would Johnson consider the use of hermeneutics to be rationalism? When the Bible says "God is our rock," does that mean God is a literal rock, or could it be a metaphor? If someone came to you saying, "I found the God of the Israelites; he is actually made out of granite" would you not be compelled to define a metaphor? What if he said the word metaphor isn't used in the Bible? I know this is an extreme example, but so far Johnson has not proved it is wrong to try and be rational. Nor has he proved that Finney used it in a faulty manor. In the introduction to his Systematic Theology, Finney states:

"It has been no part of my aim to spare my pupils or anyone else the trouble of intense thought. Had I desired to do so, the subject discussed would of rendered such an attempt abortive." "The bible is written in a style so condensed as to require much intense study. Many know nothing of the bible or of religion, because they will not think and study. I do not pretend to so explain theology as to dispense with the labor of thinking. I have no ability and no wish to do so." (xi)
If an appeal to reason indicated an abandonment of sola scriptura, then Johnson himself would be guilty of the charge he invokes. The proof is in the claim itself, considering that the Scripture does not indicate that an appeal to reason indicates a rejection of sola scriptura. This being the case it appears that Johnson is claiming to make a rational conclusion; this by his own philosophy would indicate a rejection of sola scriptura. If  this argument is given in the form of a syllogism, we can see that the argument hangs itself. For those who are unfamiliar with syllogisms, simple ones follow the format of premise, minor premise, conclusion. For example:

Premise All men are mortal

Minor premise Aristotle is a man

Conclusion Aristotle is mortal

If you can fault either premise, it implies that the conclusion is false. In Johnson's case, his argument can be put in the following format:

Premise Appealing to reason (rationalism) implies a rejection of the authority and sufficiency of Scripture.

Minor premise. Finney appealed to reason.

Conclusion Finney rejected sola scriptura.

There are two problems with this claim. First of all, both Jesus Christ and the apostle Paul appealed to reason as is indicated in many passages. Therefore, it is evident that the Author of Scripture did not consider an appeal to reason to be inherently wrong. Secondly, as stated above, the claim is in itself an appeal to reason. However faulty it may be, if the statement were  true, Johnson would in fact be guilty of his own charge. God is rational, and He is the Author of reason;  therefore, it is evident that Johnson's conclusion is false.

"Many are destined to reason wrongly; others not to reason at all; and others, to persecute those who do reason." - Voltaire.

The Vicarious Atonement of Christ

"So they stirred up the people and the elders and the teachers of the Law. They seized Stephen and brought him before the Sanhedrin. They produced false witnesses, who testified, "This fellow never stops speaking against this holy place and against the Law. For we have heard him say that this Jesus of Nazareth will destroy this place and change the customs Moses handed down to us." Acts 6:12-14

Just as the uplifted ax would otherwise have fallen on your neck, He caught the blow on His own. You could have had no life if He had not died to save it"
Charles Finney "The Atonement"

"The Bible especially, and almost everywhere represents his death, or the shedding of his blood, as a vicarious offering for our sins. The texts which prove this are too numerous to be quoted in a skeleton."
Charles Finney "Lectures on Theology" 314.

I consider the following comments from Johnson to be the most offensive in his paper. Johnson has followed Michael Horton's lead and espoused nothing less than a lie when he states:

"Under Finney's system, Christ could not have actually borne anyone else's sin or suffered sin's full penalty in their place and in their stead (contra Isaiah 53:6; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 2:2). Finney therefore rejected the doctrine of substitutionary atonement." (Wolf 5)

This is completely false! Finney defined the atonement as:

"The Greek word rendered atonement is katallage. This means reconciliation to favor, or more strictly, the means or conditions of reconciliation to favor; from katallasso, to "change, or exchange." The term properly means substitution. An examination of these original words, in the connection in which they stand, will show that the atonement is the governmental substitution of the sufferings of Christ for the punishment of sinners. It is a covering of their sins by His sufferings." (Atonement II, pg 197)

The real issue is something other than that addressed by Johnson, and I encourage you to find out why people like him feel so compelled to misrepresent Finney. If you believe what Johnson has written, you will either flee Finney as a demon or hunt him - and people like myself - as a heretic. I am not concerned by the fact that I hold views that conflict with Johnson's; but I refuse to sit back and let him put up a smoke screen and be condemned by a false witness.

There are two issues at hand: the first involves whose view of the gospel actually reflects the glory of the biblical gospel. The second involves a moral issue; that is, the continued propagation of a lie. Rather than attempting to explain Finney's expression of the theological issues, I would prefer for you to read his writings.

"Indeed, Finney's denial of vicarious atonement underlies and explains virtually all his theological aberrations. "
(Phillip Johnson, Wolf, 10)
"That Christ's sufferings, and especially His death, were vicarious, has been abundantly shown in treating the subject of atonement."
Charles Finney (Systematic Theology, Justification, pg 469)

Righteousness and Imputation

"We see in what sense the saints are saved by the righteousness of Christ. Much as always been said by Old School divines about imputation. I do not mean now just what they do by this term, but there is a sense in which the righteousness of Christ may be said to be imputed to us. I have already explained what this sense is. Jesus Christ was treated as if He were a sinner, that we for His sake might be treated as if we were righteous. He deserved no sufferings — we deserved them all. They were not endured for His sake, but for ours. He stood before God to be treated as sinful; we as a result, stand before God and are treated as righteous. As He represented the sins of a lost race, so we represent the righteousness of a spotless Savior."

Charles Finney Substitution

 

On the whole, Johnson is fairly sophisticated in his attempt to misrepresent Finney. However, the two main exceptions are found in his section on the atonement and in the following:

"Dismissing the many biblical texts that expressly say righteousness is imputed to believers for their justification he wrote,

These and similar passages are relied upon, as teaching the doctrine of an imputed righteousness; and such as these: "The Lord our righteousness" (Phil. 3:9). . . . "Christ our righteousness" is Christ the author or procurer of our justification. But this does not imply that He procures our justification by imputing His obedience to us... [Charles Finney, Systematic Theology (Minneapolis: Bethany), 372-73].

Here Finney offers no cogent explanation of what he imagines Scripture does mean when it speaks repeatedly of the imputation of righteousness to believers (e.g., Genesis 15:6; Romans 4:4-6)."

It is astounding that Johnson could make reference to Romans 4:4-6, and state that Finney does not explain his understanding of imputation when he does so in the same section Johnson himself took the quote from. To top it off, Finney took his definition from the context of the very passage Johnson referred to! I encourage you to read the context, but for clarity I will quote a more complete expression of Finney's definition found a few pages earlier:  

"It is an ultimate treatment of the sinner as just, a practical, not a literal, pronouncing of him just. It is treating him as if he had been wholly righteous, when in fact he has greatly sinned. In proof of this position, I remark,-- 

1. That this is most unequivocally taught in the Old Testament scriptures. The whole system of sacrifices taught the doctrine of pardon upon the conditions of atonement, repentance, and faith. This, under the old dispensation, is constantly represented as a merciful acceptance of the penitents, and never as a forensic or judicial acquittal or justification of them. The mercy-seat covered the law in the ark of the covenant. Paul informs us what justification was in the sense in which the Old Testament saints understood it, in Rom. iv. 6-8:-- 

"Even also as David describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin." This quotation from David shows both what David and what Paul understood by justification, to wit, the pardon and acceptance of the penitent sinner. "  Justification section 2/1 pg 320  

What must bother Johnson is that Finney takes the apostle Paul's definition rather than Calvin's. This would be why Johnson refers to Finney's denial of "justification by imputing his obedience to us" as a denial of imputed righteousness (as in the passage above). It should also be noted that whether you translate the word as imputed (KJV) or credited (NIV), Paul's definition is the same. The issue here is not a denial of imputation; it is a denial of Calvin's doctrinal understanding of imputation. Calvin taught forensic justification, Finney taught justification by grace. 

It is not my aim here to explain the arguments against forensic justification. If you want to study further, read the whole chapter on justification by Finney. I have also addressed the issue in "Forensic Justification On Trial." My point is that despite Johnson's assertions that Finney denied imputation, the passages that imply a denial are always in context of a denial of the forensic view of imputation. Consider again this quote: "Here Finney offers no cogent explanation of what he imagines Scripture does mean when it speaks repeatedly of the imputation of righteousness to believers." Now read the following and ask yourself if Johnson's quote is appropriate. Keep in mind that this is taken from the same page wherein Johnson had taken his quotation: 

"By 'the Lord our righteousness', we may understand either that we are justified, that is, that our sins are atoned for, and that we are pardoned and accepted by, or on account of the Lord, that is, Jesus Christ; or we may understand that the Lord makes us righteous, that is, that he is our sanctification, working in us to will and to do of his good pleasure; or both, that is, he atones for our sins, brings us to repentance and faith, works sanctification or righteousness in us, and then pardons our past sins, and accepts us. By the righteousness of faith, or of God by faith, I understand the method of making sinners holy, and of securing their justification or acceptance by faith, as opposed to mere works of law or self-righteousness." (Justification 3/7 pg 333 or 372 in Phillips copy.)

Despite Johnson's assertion that Finney offers no cogent explanation, etc, he did so - in the immediate context.  If this is not dishonesty on Johnson's part, I don't know what is.

Justification by Faith

"Faith is often spoken of in scripture as the sole condition of salvation, because as we have seen, from its very nature it implies repentance and every virtue."
Charles Finney (ST, 36, III, 3, pg 473)

"Let it be for ever remembered, that "without faith it is impossible to please God" (Hebrews 11:6), and "whatsoever is not of faith, is sin" (Romans 14:23). Both justification and sanctification are by faith alone."
Charles Finney (ST, 39, X, pg. 533)

"Specifically, what were Finney's most serious errors? At the top of the list stands his rejection of the doctrine of justification by faith."
Phillip Johnson (4)

This section is closely related to the one on imputation, and covers pages four to seven of his paper. The issues involved hinge upon how Finney defined the grounds of our justification and the term "conditions." In the following, we will examine Johnson's assertion that claiming there are conditions for justification implies a denial of justification by faith.
 

"Obfuscating the issue further, Finney listed several "necessary conditions" (insisting these are not, technically, grounds) of justification. These "necessary conditions" included Christ's atoning death, the Christian's own faith, repentance, sanctification, and----most ominously----the believer's ongoing obedience to the law. Finney wrote,

There can be no justification in a legal or forensic sense, but upon the ground[2] of universal, perfect, and uninterrupted obedience to law. This is, of course, denied by those who hold that gospel justification, or the justification of penitent sinners, is of the nature of a forensic or judicial justification. They hold to the legal maxim, that what a man does by another he does by himself, and therefore the law regards Christ's obedience as ours, on the ground that He obeyed for us [Systematic Theology, 362]." (Wolf 6)

Before we can get to the issue at hand, it is important to clear up some possible confusion. The quote Johnson used after his statement was one in which Finney was discussing forensic justification, in the context of which he explains why it is impossible for sinners. He was not saying that this is a ground or condition for our justification, as made abundantly clear in the chapter. Johnson, by putting the quote right after his representation of Finney's views of conditions, makes it sound like Finney believed in forensic justification on the grounds of "perfect, and uninterrupted obedience to the law." His footnote makes it clear that this is what he is trying to imply:

"2. Notice that Finney confused the very terms he was ostensibly keeping distinct, essentially admitting that he regarded the believer's obedience as a ground of justification." (11)
 

Johnson makes it sound like Finney was stating that obedience is a ground for our justification, but this is false - and Finney makes it clear in the context. As to why this is the case, I will refer you to Finney's chapter or my own. I now invite you to consider "conditions."
 

"Now, if the wicked man were to be saved by fire on account of his faith only, and if this is the way the statement of the blessed Paul should be understood--"But he himself shall be saved, yet so as by fire"--then faith without works would be sufficient to salvation. But then what the apostle James said would be false. And also false would be another statement of the same by Paul himself: "Do not err," he says; "neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor the unmanly, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the Kingdom of God."

St Augustine (Enchiridion, Chapter XVIII, paragraph 3).

Some of the issues we're discussing are misunderstood largely due to semantics. I am curious to know what your answers would be to the following questions:

Can you be in a state of justification while deliberately continuing in sin?

Can you be in a state of justification without ever having repented?

Can you be justified apart from the atonement?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume that you would answer "no" to all of the above. These are the questions which Finney is discussing under the terms "Conditions for Justification," which he defined as:

"A condition as distinct from a ground of justification is anything without which sinners cannot be justified; which, nevertheless, is not the procuring, cause or fundamental reason of our justification." (Systematic Theology, 320, Justification. )

In this sense, faith is a condition of justification, since you could not be justified without faith. In this sense "faith without works is dead." (James 2). I am sure that neither you nor I would assume that the statement James made is inconsistent with the concept of "faith alone"; it is merely used in another sense to describe another aspect. "You see, a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone." (James 2:24 NIV). Finney was trying to use terms that would explain different issues related to justification systematically.

I would say that we are justified by faith alone inasmuch as faith is the only response to God that we need in order to be justified. In this sense, if you have faith you have everything. I do insist, however, that we define faith and remember that the Bible describes faith as: working "by love," "producing obedience," and that it "purifies the heart." (Gal 5:6, Romans 1:5, 1 Thes 1:3, Acts 15:9).
 

"and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him." Heb 5:8-9

"We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him." 1 John 2:3-4

"If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, 'It is mine to avenge; I will repay,' and again, 'The Lord will judge his people' It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." Heb 10:26-31

Rom. iii. 30: "Seeing it is one God who shall justify the circumcision by faith, and the uncircumcision through faith;" and ch. v. 1: "Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God, through our Lord Jesus Christ." Also, ch. ix. 30, 31: "What shall we say then? that the Gentiles, who followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. But Israel, who followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but, as it were, by the works of the law." who is saying this paragraph?

Distinctions must be made when discussing conditions, to which end I think it better to say: "justified through faith" (Rom 5:1) "by grace"-"through redemption" that came "by Christ Jesus" (Rom 3:24).

Johnson claimed that, "Since the dawn of the Protestant Reformation, the virtually unanimous Protestant consensus has been that justification is in no sense grounded or conditioned on our sanctification" (6). While Finney did not assert that justification is grounded in sanctification, he did say, and I would argue that, you cannot be justified without also being sanctified. I would further assert that Johnson's claimed consensus is not completely true. When we consider his consensus, I would appeal to your own awareness; do most Protestants teach that the atonement was an unnecessary condition of our salvation? Do they teach that Jesus did not need to die because all we need is faith? How about obedience - can you be saved while deliberately continuing in sin? While some would say that only an intellectual conviction is necessary, most would agree with the idea of conditions when understood in the sense here discussed. The technical issues involve the semantical frame work in which the issues are discussed; the real difference involves the type of faith and the quality of the obedience. For further info on related issues pertaining to Johnson's imaginary "consensus" I suggest a consideration of the following article by Dr Robert Gundry

It is not my goal to discuss all the related issues, only to state that Johnson is leaving people with a very confused idea of justification. His baseless criticisms only serve to mislead people as to the actual issues and objections involved. I encourage you to read Finney's Systematic Theology and then consider again the comments made by Phillip Johnson.

The Results of Finney's Preaching

            Johnson makes much of various quotes in which Finney and others complained of carnality among the converts. Without going into detail/pointing out inaccuracies, I would only note that even Paul and the other apostles had trouble with the converts from their ministries. Johnson’s comments are no more fair here than if someone would quote from Corinthians or even Marcion and condemn Paul. One of the problems we have today is in that people often do not even seem to care. People sign a "decision for Christ" card, another notch is placed on the pew, and little else happens. For further information, I have another paper which speaks about the positive impact of the Revivals and of the converts. It contains links to both the Library of Congress and  papers from secular historians, and should be considered supplemental to  information found in the various biographies.

 

 

Finney's Systematic Theology

The Lies of Michael Horton

Mail: CJSchmidtz@StopSinning.net